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SGI Fuel R16000 800MHz (4MB L2) CPU 1GB RAM 146GB 10K disk V10 graphics 32X CDROM 500 UKP + shipping OR: SGI Fuel R16000 800MHz (4MB L2) CPU 4GB RAM (max possible) 36GB 15K system disk (Fujitsu MAX3036NP - very fast and quiet) 146GB 10K data disk V12 graphics (best possible) Revolution 7.1 Audio QLA1280 SCSI card (dual-port U2W) DVDROM 995 UKP + shipping Or I can do any kind of inbetween configuration.
Contact me for details!
I have numerous Fuels available; too many to list, so here are some
example configurations, grouped by CPU-type. See after the
table for warranty information, optional discounts, extras, upgrades,
notes, etc. Any 'special offers' I currently have available are shown
above.
All configurations come with a free QLOGIC Dual-channel QLA1280 U2W SCSI card, power cable and a free 9GB disk containing a clone backup copy of the system disk. Keyboards and mice are available separately. All systems are now fitted with a minimum of a fast and quiet 36GB 15000rpm system disk (Fujitsu MAX3036NP); this disk is perfect for Fuel - in terms of access time, it is the fastest SCSI disk I've ever tested (see my disks performance page).
Main Table, more valuable systems listed first. Use price differences and later tables to calculate alternative configurations, or just contact me for a quote.
Disk
Ref RAM Banks Size Disk GFX 5.25" Cost
No. CPU Type MHz L2 (MB) Used (GB) RPM Type Device (UKP)
1 R16000 800 4MB 4096 2 300 15K V12 10X DVD 1455
2 R16000 800 4MB 4096 2 300 10K V12 10X DVD 1375
3 R16000 800 4MB 4096 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 1275
4 R16000 800 4MB 2048 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 1200
5 R16000 800 4MB 2048 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 1185
6 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 1155
7 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V10 10X DVD 800
8 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V12 10X DVD 1135
9 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V10 10X DVD 780
10 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 73 15K V10 10X DVD 760
11 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 73 10K V10 10X DVD 745
12 R16000 800 4MB 4096 2 36 15K V12 10X DVD 1205
13 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V12 10X DVD 1085
14 R16000 800 4MB 2048 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 795
15 R16000 800 4MB 2048 2 36 15K V10 12X DVD 780
16 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 750
17 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 10X DVD 730
18 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 16/10/40 725
19 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 40X CDROM 705
20 R16000 800 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 32X CDROM 700
21 R16000 700 4MB 4096 2 300 15K V12 10X DVD 1255
22 R16000 700 4MB 4096 2 300 10K V12 10X DVD 1175
23 R16000 700 4MB 4096 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 1075
24 R16000 700 4MB 2048 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 1000
25 R16000 700 4MB 2048 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 985
26 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 955
27 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V10 10X DVD 600
28 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V12 10X DVD 935
29 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V10 10X DVD 580
30 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 73 15K V10 10X DVD 560
31 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 73 10K V10 10X DVD 545
32 R16000 700 4MB 4096 2 36 15K V12 10X DVD 1005
33 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V12 10X DVD 885
34 R16000 700 4MB 2048 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 595
35 R16000 700 4MB 2048 2 36 15K V10 12X DVD 580
36 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 550
37 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 10X DVD 530
38 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 16/10/40 525
39 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 40X CDROM 505
40 R16000 700 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 32X CDROM 500
41 R14000 600 4MB 4096 2 300 15K V12 10X DVD 1105
42 R14000 600 4MB 4096 2 300 10K V12 10X DVD 1025
43 R14000 600 4MB 4096 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 925
44 R14000 600 4MB 2048 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 850
45 R14000 600 4MB 2048 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 835
46 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 805
47 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V10 10X DVD 450
48 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V12 10X DVD 785
49 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V10 10X DVD 430
50 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 73 15K V10 10X DVD 410
51 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 73 10K V10 10X DVD 395
52 R14000 600 4MB 4096 2 36 15K V12 10X DVD 855
53 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V12 10X DVD 735
54 R14000 600 4MB 2048 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 445
55 R14000 600 4MB 2048 2 36 15K V10 12X DVD 430
56 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 400
57 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 10X DVD 380
58 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 16/10/40 375
59 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 40X CDROM 355
60 R14000 600 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 32X CDROM 350
61 R14000 500 2MB 4096 2 300 15K V12 10X DVD 1005
62 R14000 500 2MB 4096 2 300 10K V12 10X DVD 925
63 R14000 500 2MB 4096 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 825
64 R14000 500 2MB 2048 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 750
65 R14000 500 2MB 2048 2 147 15K V12 10X DVD 735
66 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 147 15K V12 10X DVD 705
67 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 147 15K V10 10X DVD 350
68 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 147 10K V12 10X DVD 685
69 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 147 10K V10 10X DVD 330
70 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 73 15K V10 10X DVD 310
71 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 73 10K V10 10X DVD 295
72 R14000 500 2MB 4096 2 36 15K V12 10X DVD 755
73 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 36 15K V12 10X DVD 635
74 R14000 500 2MB 2048 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 345
75 R14000 500 2MB 2048 2 36 15K V10 12X DVD 330
76 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 12X DVD 300
77 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 10X DVD 280
78 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 16/10/40 275
79 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 40X CDROM 255
80 R14000 500 2MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 32X CDROM 250
Example Options/Upgrades (see the Parts/Spares page for a full list):
Add 355 to upgrade V10 to V12.
Add 95 to include an original SGI Copper Gbit Ethernet PCI card.
Add 50 to include an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI Audio Card (used).
Add 65 to include an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI Audio Card (brand new! Never been used! Still sealed in original box [rear|specs]).
Add 35 to include an Audigy2 PCI Audio Card (not as good a quality sound as the Rev 7.1, but does the job).
Add 120 to upgrade a system with 1GB RAM to the maximum 4GB RAM.
Add 75 to include an extra 2GB RAM kit.
Add 30 to include an extra 1GB RAM kit.
Add 195 to include a dual-port LSI U320 PCI SCSI card
Add 125 to include a dual-port U160 LVD/SE 33MHz PCI SCSI card (2 x 160MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA12160/33)
Add 175 to include a dual-port U160 LVD/SE 66MHz PCI SCSI card (2 x 160MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA12160/66)
Add 40 to include a dual-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (2 x 80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1280)
Add 35 to include a single-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1080)
Add 25 to include keyboard and mouse
Subtract 20 if you don't mind a unit with scratches, marks, etc.
WARRANTY | <------- System Value (UKP) ------->
TABLE | Up to 599 | 599 to 1499 | 1500+
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Default cover | 30 days | 60 days | 90 days
Extend to 60 days | +50 | - | -
Extend to 90 days | +95 | +150 | -
Extend to 6 months | +195 | +295 | +495
Extend to 1 year | +395 | +595 | +995
NOTE: These configurations are not fixed. I can upgrade/downgrade
as required. Use the upgrade prices below or price differences above
to calculate other combinations, or feel free to email me or call if
you're interested in a configuration not shown above.
Disk upgrade options are as follows (old disk along the top, new disk
down the side on the left), eg. to upgrade from a 36GB 15K to a 146GB
10K, add 50. Remember that unlike Octane, Fuel can take good advantage
of a 15K drive, eg. more than 90MB/sec from a typical 15K.
Old Disk -> RPM: | 15K | 10K | 15K | 10K | 15K | 10K
Capacity: | 36GB | 73GB | 73GB | 146GB | 146GB | 300GB
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New 73GB 10K | 15 | - | - | - | - | -
Disk 73GB 15K | 30 | 15 | - | - | - | -
| 147GB 10K | 50 | 35 | 20 | - | - | -
| 147GB 15K | 70 | 55 | 40 | 20 | - | -
\|/ 300GB 10K | 170 | 155 | 140 | 120 | 100 | -
300GB 15K | 250 | 235 | 220 | 200 | 180 | 80
The main table is ordered in terms of CPU speed. Choose the example
closest to your needs in the table, then add on any extras as
required (or discounts) - see the list of example optional
extras/upgrades after the table, or the Parts/Spares page for the full list. If
you're not sure, feel free to email me. Please widen your browser
window to see the full table.
Please see the Fuel section of the Parts/Spares page for a full list of available upgrades and extras. Further items such as DVDROM/CDROM/CDRW/DAT units, SCSI cables, etc. can be found on the SCSI Items page.
Please see my Origin3000 Architecture page for background information on the architecture Fuel is based on. Fuel is effectively a single-CPU Origin3000 with one VPro graphics pipe).
See the shipping costs page for details
of postage charges to the UK, mainland Europe and beyond. A typical
shipping cost would be 25 UKP for a UK destination, and between 30
and 75 UKP for most mainland European destinations. For destinations
beyond Europe, see the shipping costs
page for full details. Alternatively, a personal collection is
welcome; I live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Or I can deliver by train/bus
if the distance isn't too far (buyer just covers my travel
expenses).
DVI monitor cables and adapters are also available - please see the
monitors page for details.
Detailed Notes
All systems have a full installation of IRIX 6.5.30m (my own special installation with lots of extras such as Blender, BMRT, Ayam3D, mplayer, OpenOffice, Freeware, Nekoware, Quake2, Quake3, etc.) Adobe Premiere 4.2 is installed, plus many other items, including a good custom desktop layout. A typical installed software list in Software Manager looks like this, though I can of course customise in any way required, or even just put on a default installation with no extras if preferred.
All systems come with the Octane2 VPro demos CD, my custom SGI Nekoware split (8 CDs) and my SGI Gifts CDs. See the IRIX CDs page for details of these CDs. Alternatively, I can include a full 6.5.30 CD set for +50 (email for details).
If you require a hinv output of any configuration, let me know and I will send it to you. Similarly, I can send any photos required of any system or part.
V12 graphics is the best graphics option available. V12 has 128MB combined VRAM/TRAM (up to 108MB for textures) and supports more resolutions than V10.
Background Information (Comparisons with Octane2)
For full details, see my Fuel page, but here is a summary...
CPUs found in Fuels range from R14K/500 (2MB L2) to R16K/900MHz (8MB L2), with speeds of 600, 700 and 800 inbetween. 800MHz and 900MHz systems are much harder to find and thus more expensive, but even a 700MHz CPU causes a significant price jump.
The maximum RAM is 4GB (4 DIMM slots). The system architecture compared to Octane2 has 4X faster SCSI (U160 instead of UW), 2X faster PCI (which comes built-in as standard!), 2X faster RAM, 2X faster system bandwidth, lower RAM latency, less noise, but audio is not included as standard. An M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI card is the best audio board to look for, though this card is rather costly even 2nd-hand; the other board one can use is the Audigy2 ZS, but it's not as good as the Revolution 7.1 (does the job, so to speak). Fuel does have some degree of support for Firewire and USB (see www.nekochan.net for details).
Fuel has two internal 5.25" bays included, DVDROM typically fitted, but not always; some people have been able to use DVDR/DVDRW drives ok, but this does require a recent version of IRIX and up-to-date Nekoware apps (I can install 6.5.30 instead if required). The system has two internal 3.5" bays for disks, though one could always employ the 5.25" bays for extra disks aswell if required.
For raw speed, a 500MHz Fuel can be 40% to 50% faster than a 400MHz Octane2 with a good disk, ie. a better speed increase than is implied merely by the 25% higher clock speed. Application startup times are much improved. Fuel can take good advantage of a nice 15K drive since it has U160 SCSI. The graphics can only be V10 or V12 (just one pipe), but Fuel can get more out of them compared to the same options in Octane, though one would only notice this if working with more dynamic datasets, or if some aspect of displaying the model was CPU/memory bound, eg. repeated conversion from a prioprietory database to Performer. Overall, for any equivalent single-CPU/gfx combination, Fuel is better value for money than Octane2, ie. bette bang for your buck.
Fuel already has 4 PCI slots included. PCI with Octane requires either the expensive PCI cage or an XTalk adapter, so Fuel has an advantage here. If you can make good use of dual CPUs, then Octane2 may be a better choice though, eg. for use with Blender, Maya, SoftImage, or other applications that can use dual-CPUs for rendering (any professional video, animation or effects package will be able to use dual-CPUs). Thus, if single-threaded speed is more important (ie. running applications such as OpenOffice, Seamonkey or Firefox), then a 600MHz Fuel with a 15K disk is a very nice system (I recommend the Maxtor Atlas 15K II), especially if you don't care about audio since most Fuels do not come fitted with an audio board by default, whereas Octane has audio built-in as standard. By contrast, dual-CPU Octanes are very cool when using applications that can use multiple CPUs, but good dual-CPU systems (ie. dual-R12K/400 or better) ar a lot more expensive than a single-CPU Octane.
See the Nekochan site for further hardware information on Fuel.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask!
