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Fuel Systems

Last Change: 20/Jul/2017

Fuel Parts/Spares

I have various Fuels available; here are some example configurations, grouped by CPU-type. Anything in italics is not available. See after the table for extras, upgrades, notes, etc. Any 'special offers' I currently have available are shown above. Note that due to the high value of Fuel systems these days, I can no longer provide them directly as a private sale to commercial entities. Thus, for if you're looking for a Fuel for a company and would like to buy one of mine, please contact either Toby Jennings at 3D System sales or Allen Gold at Cordnet and make the purchase via them (or they might already have something available).

All configurations come with a free QLOGIC Dual-channel QLA1280 U2W SCSI card, power cable and a free 9GB disk containing a clone backup copy of the system disk. Keyboards and mice are available separately. All systems are now fitted with a minimum of a fast and quiet 36GB 15000rpm system disk (Fujitsu MAX3036 series); this disk is perfect for Fuel - in terms of access time, it is the fastest SCSI disk I've ever tested (see my disks performance page).

Main Table, cheaper systems listed first. Use price differences and later tables to calculate alternative configurations, or just contact me for a quote. Again, any system shown in italics is not currently available.

                                       Disk
Ref                       RAM   Banks  Size   Disk   GFX    5.25"     Cost
No.  CPU Type  MHz  L2    (MB)  Used   (GB)   RPM    Type   Device    (UKP)

  1   R14000   500  2MB   4096    2    300    15K    V12    10X DVD   2575
  2   R14000   500  2MB   4096    2    300    10K    V12    10X DVD   2475
  3   R14000   500  2MB   4096    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2375
  4   R14000   500  2MB   2048    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2250
  5   R14000   500  2MB   2048    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2185
  6   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2155
  7   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1    147    15K    V10    10X DVD   1155
  8   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1    147    10K    V12    10X DVD   2135
  9   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1    147    10K    V10    10X DVD   1135
 10   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     73    15K    V10    10X DVD   1115
 11   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     73    10K    V10    10X DVD   1100
 12   R14000   500  2MB   4096    2     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   2305
 13   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   2085
 14   R14000   500  2MB   2048    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1200
 15   R14000   500  2MB   2048    2     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1135
 16   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1105
 17   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    10X DVD   1085
 18   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   16/10/40   1180
 19   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   40X CDROM  1080
 20   R14000   500  2MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   32X CDROM  1075

 21   R14000   600  4MB   4096    2    300    15K    V12    10X DVD   2875
 22   R14000   600  4MB   4096    2    300    10K    V12    10X DVD   2775
 23   R14000   600  4MB   4096    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2675
 24   R14000   600  4MB   2048    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2550
 25   R14000   600  4MB   2048    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2485
 26   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2455
 27   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1    147    15K    V10    10X DVD   1455
 28   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1    147    10K    V12    10X DVD   2435
 29   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1    147    10K    V10    10X DVD   1435
 30   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     73    15K    V10    10X DVD   1415
 31   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     73    10K    V10    10X DVD   1400
 32   R14000   600  4MB   4096    2     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   2605
 33   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   2385
 34   R14000   600  4MB   2048    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1500
 35   R14000   600  4MB   2048    2     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1435
 36   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1405
 37   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    10X DVD   1385
 38   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   16/10/40   1480
 39   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   40X CDROM  1380
 40   R14000   600  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   32X CDROM  1375

 41   R16000   700  4MB   4096    2    300    15K    V12    10X DVD   3325
 42   R16000   700  4MB   4096    2    300    10K    V12    10X DVD   3225
 43   R16000   700  4MB   4096    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   3125
 44   R16000   700  4MB   2048    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   3000
 45   R16000   700  4MB   2048    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2935
 46   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   2905
 47   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1    147    15K    V10    10X DVD   1905
 48   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1    147    10K    V12    10X DVD   2885
 49   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1    147    10K    V10    10X DVD   1885
 50   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     73    15K    V10    10X DVD   1865
 51   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     73    10K    V10    10X DVD   1850
 52   R16000   700  4MB   4096    2     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   3055
 53   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   2835
 54   R16000   700  4MB   2048    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1950
 55   R16000   700  4MB   2048    2     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1885
 56   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   1855
 57   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    10X DVD   1835
 58   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   16/10/40   1930
 59   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   40X CDROM  1830
 60   R16000   700  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   32X CDROM  1825

 61   R16000   800  4MB   4096    2    300    15K    V12    10X DVD   4075
 62   R16000   800  4MB   4096    2    300    10K    V12    10X DVD   3975
 63   R16000   800  4MB   4096    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   3875
 64   R16000   800  4MB   2048    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   3750
 65   R16000   800  4MB   2048    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   3685
 66   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   3655
 67   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1    147    15K    V10    10X DVD   2655
 68   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1    147    10K    V12    10X DVD   3635
 69   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1    147    10K    V10    10X DVD   2635
 70   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     73    15K    V10    10X DVD   2615
 71   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     73    10K    V10    10X DVD   2600
 72   R16000   800  4MB   4096    2     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   3805
 73   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   3625
 74   R16000   800  4MB   2048    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   2700
 75   R16000   800  4MB   2048    2     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   2635
 76   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   2605
 77   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    10X DVD   2585
 78   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   16/10/40   2680
 79   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   40X CDROM  2580
 80   R16000   800  4MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   32X CDROM  2575

 81   R16000   900  8MB   4096    2    300    15K    V12    10X DVD   5425
 82   R16000   900  8MB   4096    2    300    10K    V12    10X DVD   5325
 83   R16000   900  8MB   4096    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   5225
 84   R16000   900  8MB   2048    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   5100
 85   R16000   900  8MB   2048    2    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   5035
 86   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1    147    15K    V12    10X DVD   5005
 87   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1    147    15K    V10    10X DVD   4005
 88   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1    147    10K    V12    10X DVD   4985
 89   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1    147    10K    V10    10X DVD   3985
 90   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     73    15K    V10    10X DVD   3965
 91   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     73    10K    V10    10X DVD   3950
 92   R16000   900  8MB   4096    2     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   5155
 93   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     36    15K    V12    10X DVD   4975
 94   R16000   900  8MB   2048    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   4050
 95   R16000   900  8MB   2048    2     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   3985
 96   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    12X DVD   3955
 97   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10    10X DVD   3935
 98   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   16/10/40   4030
 99   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   40X CDROM  3930
100   R16000   900  8MB   1024    1     36    15K    V10   32X CDROM  3925


Example Options/Upgrades (see the Parts/Spares page for a full list):

Add 150 to include an original SGI Copper Gbit Ethernet PCI card.
Add 50 to include an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI Audio Card (used).
Add 65 to include an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI Audio Card (brand new! Never been used! Still sealed in original box [rear|specs]).
Add 35 to include an Audigy2 PCI Audio Card (not as good a quality sound as the Rev 7.1, but does the job).
Add 220 to upgrade a system with 1GB RAM to the maximum 4GB RAM.
Add 125 to include an extra 2GB RAM kit.
Add 30 to include an extra 1GB RAM kit.
Add 195 to include a dual-port LSI U320 PCI SCSI card.
Add 125 to include a dual-port U160 LVD/SE 33MHz PCI SCSI card (2 x 160MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA12160/33).
Add 175 to include a dual-port U160 LVD/SE 66MHz PCI SCSI card (2 x 160MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA12160/66).
Add 40 to include a dual-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (2 x 80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1280).
Add 35 to include a single-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1080).
Subtract 20 if you don't mind a unit with scratches, marks, etc. (eg. server unit which won't be seen).


      WARRANTY     | <------- System Value (UKP) ------->
       TABLE       | Up to 1499 | 1500 to 3999 |    4000+
----------------------------------------------------------
Default cover      |   30 days  |    60 days   |  90 days
Extend to 60 days  |     +95    |       -      |      -
Extend to 90 days  |    +195    |     +295     |      -
Extend to 6 months |    +395    |     +595     |    +795
Extend to 1 year   |    +795    |    +1195     |   +1595

NOTE: These configurations are not fixed. I can upgrade/downgrade
as required. Use the upgrade prices below or price differences above
to calculate other combinations, or feel free to email me or call if
you're interested in a configuration not shown above.

Disk upgrade options are as follows (old disk along the top, new disk
down the side on the left), eg. to upgrade from a 36GB 15K to a 146GB
10K, add 50. Remember that unlike Octane, Fuel can take good advantage
of a 15K drive, eg. more than 90MB/sec from a typical 15K.

Old Disk ->     RPM: |   15K  |   10K  |   15K  |   10K   |   15K   |   10K
           Capacity: |  36GB  |  73GB  |  73GB  |  146GB  |  146GB  |  300GB
      -----------------------------------------------------------------------
New        73GB 10K  |   15   |    -   |    -   |    -    |    -    |    -
Disk       73GB 15K  |   30   |    15  |    -   |    -    |    -    |    -
 |        147GB 10K  |   50   |    35  |    20  |    -    |    -    |    -
 |        147GB 15K  |   70   |    55  |    40  |    20   |    -    |    -
\|/       300GB 10K  |  170   |   155  |   140  |   120   |   100   |    -
          300GB 15K  |  270   |   255  |   240  |   220   |   200   |   100


The main table is ordered in terms of CPU speed. Choose the example closest to your needs in the table, then add on any extras as required (or discounts) - see the list of example optional extras/upgrades after the table, or the Parts/Spares page for the full list. If you're not sure, feel free to email me. Please widen your browser window to see the full table.

Please see the Fuel section of the Parts/Spares page for a full list of available upgrades and extras. Further items such as DVDROM/CDROM/CDRW/DAT units, SCSI cables, etc. can be found on the SCSI Items page.

Please see my Origin3000 Architecture page for background information on the architecture Fuel is based on. Fuel is effectively a single-CPU Origin3000 with one VPro graphics pipe).


See the shipping costs page for details of postage charges to the UK, mainland Europe and beyond. A typical shipping cost would be 25 UKP for a UK destination, and between 30 and 75 UKP for most mainland European destinations. For destinations beyond Europe, see the shipping costs page for full details. Alternatively, a personal collection is welcome; I live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Or I can deliver by train/bus if the distance isn't too far (buyer just covers my travel expenses).


DVI monitor cables and adapters are also available - please see the monitors page for details.


Detailed Notes

All systems have a full installation of IRIX 6.5.30m (my own special installation with lots of extras such as Blender, BMRT, Ayam3D, mplayer, OpenOffice, Freeware, Nekoware, Quake2, Quake3, etc.) Adobe Premiere 4.2 is installed, plus many other items, including a good custom desktop layout. A typical installed software list in Software Manager looks like this, though I can of course customise in any way required, or even just put on a default installation with no extras if preferred.

All systems come with the Octane2 VPro demos CD, my custom SGI Nekoware split (8 CDs) and my SGI Gifts CDs. See the IRIX CDs page for details of these CDs. Alternatively, I can include a full 6.5.30 CD set for +50 (email for details).

If you require a hinv output of any configuration, let me know and I will send it to you. Similarly, I can send any photos required of any system or part.

V12 graphics is the best graphics option available. V12 has 128MB combined VRAM/TRAM (up to 108MB for textures) and supports more resolutions than V10.



Background Information (Comparisons with Octane2)

For full details, see my Fuel page, but here is a summary...

CPUs found in Fuels range from R14K/500 (2MB L2) to R16K/900MHz (8MB L2), with speeds of 600, 700 and 800 inbetween. 800MHz and 900MHz systems are much harder to find and thus more expensive, but even a 700MHz CPU causes a significant price jump.

The maximum RAM is 4GB (4 DIMM slots). The system architecture compared to Octane2 has 4X faster SCSI (U160 instead of UW), 2X faster PCI (which comes built-in as standard!), 2X faster RAM, 2X faster system bandwidth, lower RAM latency, less noise, but audio is not included as standard. An M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI card is the best audio board to look for; the other board one can use is the Audigy2 ZS, but it's definitely not as good as the Revolution 7.1 (the Audigy2 can be kinda noisy). Fuel does have some degree of support for Firewire and USB (see www.nekochan.net for details), but it varies greatly. Hobbyist strive to improve this all the time, but it's not something with which I keep up to date.

Fuel has two internal 5.25" bays included, DVDROM typically fitted, but not always; some people have been able to use DVDR/DVDRW drives ok, but this does require a recent version of IRIX and up-to-date Nekoware apps (I can install 6.5.30 instead if required). The system has two internal 3.5" bays for disks, though one could always employ the 5.25" bays for extra disks aswell if required.

For raw speed, a 500MHz Fuel can be 40% to 50% faster than a 400MHz Octane2 with a good disk, ie. a better speed increase than is implied merely by the 25% higher clock speed. Application startup times are much improved. Fuel can take good advantage of a nice 15K drive since it has U160 SCSI. The graphics can only be V10 or V12 (just one pipe), but Fuel can get more out of them compared to the same options in Octane, though one would only notice this if working with more dynamic datasets, or if some aspect of displaying the model was CPU/memory bound, eg. repeated conversion from a prioprietory database to Performer.

Fuel already has 4 PCI slots included. PCI with Octane requires either the expensive PCI cage or an XTalk adapter, so Fuel has an advantage here. Also, Octane's PCI is only 33MHz, whereas two of Fuel's slot run at 66MHz, allowing Fuel to take good advantage of high-performance SAS, SATA and other storage technologies (eg. just a single SSD can do over 270MB/sec in a Fuel).

If you can make good use of dual CPUs, then Octane2 may be a better choice though, eg. for use with Blender, Maya, SoftImage, or other applications that can use dual-CPUs for rendering (any professional video, animation or effects package will be able to use dual-CPUs), though there comes a point where Tezro may be more cost effective. Thus, if single-threaded speed is more important (ie. running applications such as OpenOffice, Seamonkey or Firefox), then a 600MHz Fuel with a 15K disk is a very nice system (I recommend the Fujitsu MAX series), especially if you don't care about audio since most Fuels do not come fitted with an audio board by default, whereas Octane has audio built-in as standard. By contrast, dual-CPU Octanes are nice when using applications that can use multiple CPUs, but good dual-CPU Octanes (ie. dual-R12K/400 or better) are a lot more expensive than a single-CPU Octane.

See my Fuel information page for further technical details and hardware information.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask!

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